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Serial Killer - HENRY LEE LUCAS

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Henry Lee Lucas confessed to 500 murders although he was only convicted for 11. His twisted list of crimes included, rape, necrophilia, bestiality, molestation and of course murder. He would strangle, bludgeon or stab his victims to death. This disturbed nut even had intercourse with his own mother after killing her. Never could anybody understand what exactly transpired in his demented mind. The band Nailbomb has a track dedicated to Henry Lee Lucas, called, "While You Sleep, I Destroy Your World".





EARLY LIFE



Lucas was born on August 23, 1936, in Blacksburg, Virginia. He described his mother, Viola Lucas, as a violent prostitute. His father, Anderson Lucas, was an alcoholic and former railroad employee who had lost his legs in a train accident, and who suffered from Viola's wrath as often as his son. Lucas reports that Viola regularly beat him and his half-brother, often for no reason. He once spent three days in a coma when his mother hit his head with a plank of wood, and on many occasions he was forced by his mother to watch her have sex with men. Lucas described an incident when he was given a pony as a gift by his father's friends, only to see his mother shoot and kill it.

When he was a teenager, Lucas claimed to have been introduced to bestiality and killing animals for pleasure (zoosadism)—the latter a common trait among sociopaths, especially those who become serial killers—as well as receiving convictions for petty theft. Lucas had also lost an eye during a fight with his half-brother. His mother ignored the injury for three days, and subsequently the eye grew infected and had to be replaced by a glass eye.

Lucas claimed to have first murdered in 1951, when he strangled a girl who refused his sexual advances. Like most of his confessions, he later retracted this claim. In 1954, Lucas was convicted on several counts of burglary in and around Richmond, Virginia, and was sentenced to six years' imprisonment. He escaped, was recaptured, and was released in September 1959.







MATRICIDE







In late 1959, Lucas moved to Tecumseh, Michigan to live with his half-sister, Opal. Lucas was engaged to marry when his mother visited Michigan for Christmas. She disapproved of her son's fiancee and insisted he move back to Virginia. He refused, and they argued repeatedly about his upcoming nuptials.

On January 12, 1960, Lucas killed his mother, stabbing her with a knife. He claimed to have returned home from a night of drinking and gone to bed, only to be later woken by his mother, who beat him with a broom. After killing her, Lucas fled in a stolen car, returned to Virginia, then says he decided to drive back to Michigan, but was arrested in Ohio on the outstanding Michigan warrant.

Lucas claimed to have attacked his mother only in self defense, but his claim was rejected, and he was sentenced to between 20 and 40 years' imprisonment in Michigan for second-degree murder. He served fifteen years and was released on August 22, 1975.

Lucas drifted around the American South, working a number of mostly short-term jobs. In Florida, he made the acquaintance of Ottis Toole sometime between 1976 and 1978 (sources disagree) and claims to have had a romantic affair with Toole's pubescent niece, Frieda Powell, who had escaped from a juvenile detention facility. Lucas and Toole both called Powell "Becky" sometimes, partly to disguise her identity and because Powell preferred it over her given name. Lucas and Toole were also reportedly lovers. Lucas would later claim that during this period he had killed hundreds of people, sometimes as Toole's partner. The trio left Florida and eventually settled in Stoneburg, Texas, at a religious commune called "The House of Prayer." Ruben Moore, the commune owner and minister, found Lucas a job as a roofer, and allowed Lucas and Powell to live in a small apartment on the commune.

Powell became homesick, so Lucas agreed to move to Florida with her. Lucas said they argued at a Bowie, Texas truck stop and claimed that Powell left with a trucker. According to Shellady, a waitress at the truck stop supported Lucas's account in court.







ARREST AND MULTIPLE CONFESSIONS




Lucas was arrested in June 1983, initially on a firearms violation. He was later charged with killing 82-year-old Kate Rich in Ringgold, Texas, and was also charged with Powell's murder. Lucas claimed that police stripped him naked, denied him cigarettes and bedding, held him in a cold cell, and did not allow him to contact an attorney. After four days of this treatment, Lucas claimed he decided to confess to the crimes in a desperate bid to improve his treatment.

Lucas confessed to the murders but claimed to be unable to take police to the victims' bodies. He closed out his confession with a hand-written addendum that read: "I am not allowed to contact any one I'm in here by myself and still can't talk to a lawyer on this I have no rights so what can I do to convince you about all this" (sic). When he was finally allowed counsel, Lucas's lawyer described his client's treatment as "inhumane" and "calculated solely to require the defendant to confess guilt, whether innocent or guilty."

The forensic evidence in the Powell and Rich cases has been criticized as inconclusive. A single bone fragment recovered from a wood-burning stove was said to be Rich's, and a mostly-complete skeleton roughly matched Powell's age and size, but Shelladay reports that the coroner stopped short of positively identifying either remains. As with most of his alleged crimes, Lucas has confessed to these murders only to later deny involvement, but the general consensus seems to be that Lucas did indeed murder Powell and Rich.

Lucas pled guilty to the charges, and in open court stated he had "killed about a hundred more women" as well. This was an unexpected confession, and Lucas later claimed to have been despondent over being suspected in Powell's disappearance. Shelladay reports that Lucas said, "If they were going to make me confess to one I didn't do, then I was going to confess to everything." These claims were quickly seized upon by the press, and Lucas, accompanied by Texas Rangers, was soon flown from state to state, to meet with various police agencies in an effort to resolve a number of unsolved murders.

In November 1983, Lucas was transferred to a jail in Williamson County, Texas, where the Lucas Task Force was soon established. Shelladay describes the task force as "a veritable clearinghouse of unsolved murder, courtesy of the Texas Rangers." They officially "cleared" 213 previously unsolved murders via Lucas's confessions.

Lucas reported that he confessed to murders only because doing so improved his living conditions, and that he received preferential treatment rarely offered to convicts. Others have offered accounts that seem to support Lucas's claims, for example, that Lucas was rarely handcuffed when in custody or being transported, that he was often allowed to wander police stations and jails at will—including knowing the security codes for computerized doors—and that he was frequently taken to restaurants and cafés. On one occasion, in Huntington, West Virginia, Lucas confessed to killing a man whose death had originally been ruled a suicide. The man's widow received a large life insurance settlement that had been denied after the initial suicide verdict, and the Texas Rangers hosted a party at a Holiday Inn, spending $3,000 on drinks and prostitutes. It has been suggested that such treatment demonstrates that the Lucas Task Force did not consider Lucas a threat.

Texas Ranger Phil Ryan reports that Lucas became so accustomed to such treatment that he began "dictating orders" which were often obeyed by Rangers. Ryan also reported that he became concerned about the veracity of most of Lucas's confessions, feeling confident in the accuracy of two of Lucas's confessions, and further stated to the Houston Chronicle that "I wouldn't bet a paycheck on any of the others." Shellady reports that Ryan invented utterly fictional crimes, to which Lucas would generally "confess" involvement, a tactic also employed by Dallas detective Linda Erwin.

The same Houston Chronicle article reports that Erwin interviewed Lucas after he confessed to 13 murders in Houston. Erwin reports that "when I heard it got to be hundreds and hundreds (of confessions), it was unbelievable to me." Erwin further reports that, like Ryan, she assembled an utterly fictional crime: She "fabricated a case using random photographs from old murders long since solved and details pulled from her imagination ... He claimed credit for the phony crime, and his confession, containing facts she had dribbled out to him, probably could have convinced a jury to convict him, she (Erwin) said." Erwin admitted she was uncomfortable fabricating a crime, but felt it necessary in order to settle questions of Lucas's reliability. Lucas was not charged with any of the crimes he confessed to committing in Dallas.

Ryan reports the manner in which Lucas typically confessed to a number of unsolved murders: If a police agency suspected Lucas, and if Lucas admitted involvement—and his total of some 3,000 confessions suggests he rarely denied complicity—they would send the Lucas Task Force a case file with information pertaining to the unsolved crime. Lucas would be questioned at length and sometimes even allowed to read police reports, thus learning any number of details previously known only to police, which he could then use during interviews.







THE LUCAS REPORT AND CONTROVERSY




Lucas's claims gradually became criticized as outlandish and less likely: He claimed to have been part of a cannibalistic, satanic cult called "The Hand of Death" , to have taken part in snuff films, to have killed Jimmy Hoffa, and to have delivered poison to Jim Jones in Jonestown.

In response to these claims, and to reports of the Lucas Task Force's questionable investigative methodology, the Texas Attorney General's office issued a study (sometimes called "The Lucas Report") in 1986.

The bulk of the Lucas Report was devoted to a detailed timeline of Lucas's claimed murders. The report compared Lucas's claims to reliable, verifiable sources for Lucas's whereabouts; the results often contradicted his confessions, and thus cast doubt on most of the crimes in which he was implicated. Attorney General Jim Mattox wrote that "when Lucas was confessing to hundreds of murders, those with custody of Lucas did nothing to bring an end to this hoax," and "We have found information that would lead us to believe that some officials 'cleared cases' just to get them off the books."

Here are a few examples of crimes the Lucas Task Force ruled "closed" based on Lucas's "confessions," when strong evidence has been cited, indicating Lucas was far from the scene of the crime:

Lucas confessed to the August 10, 1977, murder of Curby Reeves in Smith County, Texas, while payroll records indicate that Lucas worked a full shift at the Kaolin Mushroom Company in Kaolin, Pennsylvania.
Lucas confessed to the March 20, 1979, murder of Elaine Tollett in Tulsa, Oklahoma, while medical records indicate Lucas was in hospital in Bluefield, West Virginia.
Chris Piazza, then a prosecutor in Little Rock, Arkansas, wrote, of a specific 1981 robbery-murder case in which Lucas claimed involvement, that "the testimony of Henry Lee Lucas ... is dubious, to say the least" and that Lucas's testimony was "inaccurate in nearly every detail."






DISSENTING OPINIONS



On the other hand, several authorities and interested parties remained sure of Lucas's guilt in a number of murders, regardless of his recantations and the controversy surrounding his many confessions. Jim Larson, a sheriff’s department investigator in Scotts Bluff County, Nebraska, questioned Lucas in September 1984 regarding the unsolved 1978 murder of schoolteacher Stella McLean. Larson says he asked deceptive questions to test Lucas, but insists Lucas offered compelling testimony to support his claims of killing McLean.

Texas General Land Office Commissioner Garry Mauro, then standing for election of governor of Texas, stated his opinion that "There is no doubt in my mind that Henry Lee Lucas is guilty enough of the murders he confessed to that he earned the death penalty."

The Houston Chronicle article quotes Harold Murphy of Marianna, Florida, who remained convinced that Lucas killed his daughter Jerilyn in 1981.

As cited in the above Houston Chronicle article, Texas Ranger Phil Ryan—while strongly criticizing the Lucas Task Force for their questionable methods, and while rejecting the vast majority of Lucas's confessions—concluded that Lucas was a strong suspect in two cases, and thought Lucas was "at most ... responsible for 15 murders." This was still a considerable total, qualifying Lucas as a serial killer according to the FBI's definitions, but well below the claims of hundreds or even thousands of murders.

These statements, among others, make it clear that law enforcement officials and other figures have conflicting opinions as to Lucas's guilt or innocence.






ORANGE SOCKS



Ultimately, Lucas was convicted of eleven homicides. He was sentenced to death for the murder of an unidentified woman, dubbed "Orange Socks" after her only clothing, who was discovered in Williamson County, Texas, on Halloween 1979. Lucas's confession was recorded on audio tape and videotape and, when presented at court, had been subject to significant editing, leading critics to speculate that the removed sections showed authorities coaching Lucas on details of the crime.

Dan Morales, Mattox's successor as Texas Attorney General, concluded that it was "highly unlikely" that Lucas was guilty in the "Orange Socks" case. Though initially skeptical of the Lucas Report, he came to generally support its findings.

Williamson County prosecutor Cecil Kuykendall discounted Lucas as a suspect in the "Orange Socks" case and has stated his opinion that Lucas's confession drew attention from a far more viable suspect, further noting evidence that Lucas was in Florida, working as a roofer, during the time that "Orange Socks" was killed. As cited in an Amnesty International report, Mattox stated that during the time "Orange Socks" was killed, "work records, check cashing evidence, all information indicating Lucas was somewhere else. [W]e found nothing tying [Lucas] with the crime he confessed to and was convicted of." Mattox's office decided not to intervene, so certain they were that the state appeals court would overturn Lucas's conviction in the "Orange Socks" case.

Lucas told Shelladay that he confessed to the murder in an effort at "legal suicide," and that he "just wanted to die." Lucas expressed what Shellady describes as "deep regret and sorrow" for offering false confessions, stating that he "was not aware how crooked they [Texas authorities] were until it was too late." The Houston Chronicle article also notes that Lucas offered various motives for his confession spree: Improving his conditions, a desire to embarrass police, and feeling guilt over killing Powell and Rich.

Adding to the confusion, however, was Lucas's habit of making confessions, recanting them, then offering more confessions, and again recanting them. Mattox, wary of Lucas's many false confessions, suggested in 1999 that in the case of Rafael Resendez-Ramirez "I hope they don't start pinning on him every crime that happens near a railroad track."

Lucas's supposed confederate, Ottis Toole, died in September 1996 from cirrhosis of the liver. He was serving six life sentences in a Florida prison. In 1998, the Texas Board of Pardon and Parole voted to recommend commuting Lucas's death sentence to life imprisonment. Then-Governor George W. Bush agreed to the commutation, the only time he commuted a sentence in his entire tenure as governor. On March 13, 2001, 64-year-old Lucas died in prison from heart failure.
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gunslingingbird

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I think it's ridiculous that they kept believing all the bullshit he was making up. Also, why is it that he got preferential treatment? Is it just because he was taking unsolved cases off their hands? That sounds stupid to me.
 

NINjaKitten

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You see? Like Charles Manson. Monsters aren't bred. They are taught. This video is creepy. Watch it at your own risk:
Qft, and to add something similar to that, to Quote Hannibal Lecter:

"Billy was not born a criminal, but made one by years of systematic abuse."
 
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georges

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do not forget the btk killer aka denis rader.
Yet some other cases like
the Littleton bowling alley murderer http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=27128
the Unknown Yuma killer http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=32860
the Unknown Tinley Park killer http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=52877
the Memphis Mass murderer http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=53625
should remember you that serial killers are not fictional but real.
If you know or have any clues regarding these cases, phone amw or go to your nearest police precinct that is what I encourage you to do.

best regards

georges
 

Torre82

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A chick posting stories about serial killers = Sorta hot. ::fapfapfap::
 

Marlo Manson

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The worst and sickest thing about this whole story and the HLL leagacey is no one actually knows how many murder's he actually commited, between all his BS confessions and the all the recants of these confessions, he could have killed a few, but I bet he got away with plenty of murders that he was dicking the authourities about..

the guy's word was for shit.. you couldn't count on a damn word that came out of that fuckers mouth, so how do they accurately surmise his true kill total?? I don't think it's possible.. he may be guilty of alot more than he was finally given credit for, and he maybe not guilty of some of the murders he aledgedly did commit, just by BS'ing the authourities.. IMO very hard to calculate his actual murder count.. nothing he ever said could be trusted or relied upon!! :confused::dunno::hatsoff:
 

The Joker

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I have no doubt that his "confessed" murders far exceed what would prove to be the actual case. But everyone knows the story of Lucas liking the idea of being something of a celeb back during the time he first got caught, and his subsequent confessions to cases that I'm sure some authorities just wanted to close. And if that included buying Henry a carton of smokes, so be it right?

In the end, Henry got his 15 minutes. Which was EXACTLY what he wanted at the time. But we'll never know the number of the crimes he actually did commit. Damn shame really.
 

senob44

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Corresponding Marilyn Manson member - Sara Lee Lucas (Fred Streithorst) - Drums

 

georges

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are all marilyn manson musicians criminal relatives??????
 

Marlo Manson

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Corresponding Marilyn Manson member - Sara Lee Lucas (Fred Streithorst) - Drums


are all marilyn manson musicians criminal relatives??????


Who cares if any of the MM band members are actually kin to any actual real life murders, as long as they don't go murdering folks, they are not criminals are they? I am not sure, but I don't think any of the band members are actually related to any of the glorified killers they are (stage named after) maybe the drummer is kin to HLL I don't know, maybe senob is correct, but you never know when senob is joking or not, lol, I could be mistaken, in which case I apologize for not researching it before replying but the point I wanted to make is MARILYN MANSON FUCKIN ROCKS!!! they are an awesome band.. since we are already :2offtopic

I find that when it relates to MM you either love em or hate em.. for example, I have 2 brothers and a sister, we all like rock, some heavy, & other variations of different styles of rock from classic to contemporary, I am only one of 2 of us 4 siblings that likes and appreciates rap and R & B, and I am also one of the 2 of us 4 that likes funk IE: (george clinton, parliment funkadelic, bootsy collins) etc..etc... but of the 4 of us I am the only one who likes MM.. :bowdown::hatsoff:
 

senob44

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are all marilyn manson musicians criminal relatives??????

From their beginning in 1989, for a long time, when a musician joined the band, they always took a stage name constructed by adding the name of a past or present female icon with the name of a serial killer. Here are all the names of present and past members who constructed a name like this:

Marilyn Manson = Marilyn Monroe + Charles Manson
Sara Lee Lucas = Sara Lee baked goods + Henry Lee Lucas
Twiggy Ramirez = Twiggy Lawson + Richard Ramirez
Daisy Berkowitz = Daisy Duke + David Berkowitz
Gidget Gein = Gidget + Ed Gein
Madonna Wayne Gacy = Madonna + John Wayne Gacy
Ginger Fish = Ginger Rogers + Albert Fish
Olivia Newton Bundy = Olivia Newton John + Ted Bundy
Zsa Zsa Speck = Zsa Zsa Gabor + Richard Speck

These members are of no relation whatsoever to the actual killers. This was just an idea that they had come up with as a gimmick mostly, but also reflects Marilyn Manson's interest in serial killers.

The practice ended in the late 90s and the band has since taken on members without giving them such colorful stage names.

And to answer the question not yet asked, yes I am a big fan of this band. :D
 
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